Our office just moved to S. Paca St. last month (about a block from the house you're looking at) and I really like this neighborhood. It's quiet, and I can park here and walk to O's games. There's a restaurant going in next door, but I'm not sure what kind of food they plan to serve. My guess would be just plain American fare, but who knows.
I've been hearing for some time that this is going to be the "next" Canton. Housing prices are going up pretty steadily from what I understand, so that's a good sign.
Good luck with your house search!
anger hangover
· 3 years ago
After being a Butchers Hill resident for many years, I bought a house in Pigtown last Fall. I am just off Washington Blvd near Carroll Park. I had some reservations about buying in Pigtown at first, even though this is where my father grew up. Gentrification has not yet taken place on this side of Scott St., but it's only a matter of time now. Houses over here are quietly being purchased and rehabbed. The neighborhood is very rough on the outside (understatement), but underneath it is very stable for the most part. I'm the first new homeowner on my block in twenty-seven years! And of all the neighborhoods I've lived in (Hampden, Butchers Hill, Mt. Vernon, Lakeside) Pigtown is the most neighborly of them all so far. There is a coffee shop that will be opening soon on Washington Blvd near the Yabba Pot. Everything is so close by too. I shoot across Ostend Street and I'm at the Cross St market in 5 minutes. It's surprisingly close to everything and has much better parking (always a bonus). Honestly, this was the best decision I could have made. The neighborhood has already changed in the eight months I've been here and housing prices have shot up too. Before you know it, people will be saying "I should've gotten in on Pigtown when I had a chance." And then they'll set their sights on Morrell Park as "the next big/best real estate thing."
OSP says...
· 3 years ago
Suck it up. Buy it and in 2-3 years you'll double your investment and have all the coffee shops (dare I say maybe even a Starbucks), bars, limited parking and drunk college kids your heart desires. Good for you.
Jason J. Thomas
· 3 years ago
Jen: That's good to know. I went by Paca while driving around the other evening.
AH: I have to admit that I have been surprised by how close it is to everything. I actually ran into some former colleagues of mine from College Park, and one of them lives in Ridgely's Delight with his wife. I was mentioning to him where I was looking, and he mentioned how things are a-changing. And, geez, you have been around this city. I read your tale of the CB the other day, and that kind of had me going "Hmmm." At the same time, this is definitely a neighborhood in transition.
OSP: Alright. I will suck it up and eat some bacon to make it taste better. ;-)
Carol Ott
· 3 years ago
I own the coffeehouse that's across the street from the Yabba Pot -- I'm going to be open in September.
PLEASE move to Pigtown. It's a great neighborhood, and you won't regret it. I've lived here for six years, and we're raising our son here -- he was born the week before we moved here. We have good neighbors, good friends, and with the exception of a few odd incidents, we've been crime free (knock on Ikea wood-veneered MDF).
I look forward to meeting you as a neighbor, customer, and friend.
Jason J. Thomas
· 3 years ago
The offer has been made, so let\'s see what happens. I am glad to hear there will be a coffeehouse nearby. If I get the house, I will be the guy coming in for 6-shot Americanos. ;-)
Fourknots
· 3 years ago
I just bought a house a block away on Scott St. Prices have slowly dropped (stopped climbing?) and I got a pretty good deal. The longer it is on the market, the more likely you are to get a good price. Interest rates are up and it's a buyer's market. That said, don't let a nice house get away from you. $3-4000 is nothing in the life of a house. Renegotiate on some other details (ask for a washer and dryer, etc). I think the area is perfect - very close to trains, stadiums, downtown, new coffee shop, etc. Prices will only increase as the DC crowd looks for the last convenient places to buy. Get there first.
Lori
· 3 years ago
Jason - I'm closing on a house on Carroll in Sept. and think you have made an excellent decision.
Carol - My friends and I are excited that we'll have a coffee shop to visit!
All - As Jason was/is, I was a little hesitant to buy in Washington Village and even experienced a little buyer's remorse this week; however, your positive outlook gives me hope that I will not regret my purchase. Thanks!
Mike B
· 3 years ago
I live on Wicomico. I have three words for you: Patrick's of Pratt.
Jason J. Thomas
· 3 years ago
Lori: I close on September 15. I was a little scared initially, but the more I think of it the better I like it. I am looking forward to that coffeehouse, too. Carol will get to know me as the guy ordering the 6 shot Americano.
Mike B: I discovered Patrick's in doing some research. I will take your word. I say I organize a little neighborhood welcome wagon at Patrick's after I get settled in. Who's in?
Lori
· 3 years ago
i'm in for a get together...
Mike B.
· 3 years ago
I live right behind you. I can see the back of your house from my back porch. Come by 1135 Wicomico and introduce yourself after you settle in.
Jason J. Thomas
· 3 years ago
I will do so, Mike. Looking forward to meeting you.
Carol
· 3 years ago
I can't wait to meet you guys!
6 shots, eh? You must be a laid-back kind of guy. ;-)
Jason J. Thomas
· 3 years ago
I am impervious to the effects of caffeine, Carol. I just drink it because of my addiction. :-)
joel perry
· 3 years ago
I actaully grew up in Pigtown. The neighborhood does seem to be changing. I've lived in the county for some time now and really miss the city. I am only hesitant because both my roommates and I all drive nice cars ( BMW 5 series...). What is the crime like now a days? Does any one know of any new progress on washington blvd?
Jason J. Thomas
· 3 years ago
joel: The city purchased a chunk of property on Washington Blvd for commercial development. You can see some of that going on now. Additionally, the area is certainly benefitting from the influx of new residents. As for crim, I don't know for certain, but I will have an idea in short order.
Carol
· 3 years ago
Oh please. My neighbor across the street drives a Merc convertible and he's never had a problem. Surely a mere 5 series would be okay.
This is where I would normally roll my eyes so hard they almost fall out of their sockets, but the effect, I'm afraid just isn't the same unless you see it in person.
Crime is no worse here than in Federal Hill. At least where I'm sitting, anyway.
Sean Hahn
· 3 years ago
Jason,
My wife and I considered buying that house in March. Very nice. We opted for one on Mangold St. Congrats. See you at Evelyn's.
Celina
· 2 years ago
Glad to have found your blog--I'm always scouring the net for ANY opinions/articles relating to Pigtown. I bought my house at 1178 Cleveland on Aug. 14, 2006 (coming from Adams Morgan in DC). Yep, crime is still a problem...particularly on my street with late night drug sales. However, the area IS changing (even in the four months I've been here). I've heard gossip about a small shopping area going up on Ostend St (near that deserted patch). Dunno when. Can't wait until Washington Blvd cleans up a bit. How I'd love to be chillin' in a poet's lounge...sighs. Maybe in 2015. Ha.
Kim
· 2 years ago
I just found this site as I am planning a move to Cleveland Street next month! It is very reassuring to hear other people say that they have faith in Pigtown/Washington Village and that it is a good idea to move there! Look for a plant hanging from 1142 Cleveland in a bit!
Jeannine
· 2 years ago
Hi everyone! I live on West Ostend Street in Pigtown and things in the neighborhood are looking up, but there still is a serious drug problem. I have come home from work several times, gotten out of my car, only to witness yet another drug deal. There was actually a guy parked next to my house shooting up heroin in his piece of crap car. My husband and I scared him off, but he had the nerve to show up a few weeks later, thinking that we wouldn't notice that he parked only a half a block away from where he was previously shooting up. He actually asked my husband on one occasion what he was doing and my husband responded "Just trying to keep the neighborhood safe, looking out for scumbag junkies and drug dealers." Mr. Heroin Junkie couldn't quite come up with a response to that. It's infuriating how bold these scumbags are. A lot of them park on Nanticoke Street and walk over to Cleveland Street to buy their drugs. I am happy to hear that there are decent folks buying homes on Cleveland Street. Have any of you been able to discern where the drug house(s) are? Those of us in Pigtown who just want to lead normal lives and be with our friends and family need to band together and not let these dirtbags take over our neighborhood. I see a lot of progress in Pigtown, but some days are tougher than others. I am trying to do my part. If any of you happen to walk by and see me picking up trash outside my house on the corner of West Ostend and Nanticoke, please feel free to say hi!
Questions
· 2 years ago
I’m thinking about buying on James Street and wondering if any of you lives on that block?
Jason - do you feel like you made the right decision?
JJT
· 2 years ago
I am amazed at how much traction this post gets almost a year after its initial posting.
Questions: I sent an email response under separate cover. I believe I made the right choice, and time will most certainly tell. The neighborhood has its issues, just as any transitional neighborhood has.
Celina
· 2 years ago
Wow...I happened to stop by this blog again and it's great to know how many cool people are right around the corner and checking in! As an update: Cleveland St. is improving! Pigtown has had a noticeable police presence this summer and an amazing amount of drug busts especially on my street. Alas, the area of Cleveland St. closest to Cross St. still seems to have the most significant share of seedy dealings and, of course, trash! Nonetheless, the Pigtown Clean Up Volunteers have been doing an awesome job cleaning on Saturdays. During the week, however, the trash problem builds. At least once a week I sweep/collect trash within a 4-house radius of my home. Every little bit counts. It'd be great if we had some trash cans on every end of the block.
Bubbles
· 2 years ago
I have to give kudos to the police for their presence on the 700 block of Carroll, too! I can name few things things that I enjoy seeing less than a dealer get cuffed and stuffed into the back of a sqaud car.
FYI - One of my neighbors is setting up a Pigtown Happy Hour soon...I'll keep you posted.
JJT
· 2 years ago
Still going strong on this post.
Bubbles: Drop me a line on that Happy Hour. It needs to happen.
Bubbles
· 2 years ago
We're going to attempt to work a deal with Patrick's of Pratt tomorrow evening...I should have the details soon.
Bubbles
· 2 years ago
Ok, so the happy hour at Patrick's right? No...my neighbor wrote 2 emails to the owners and received no response. We're hoping that the place on Paca will open soon, do you happen to know anything about that?
JJT
· 2 years ago
I would give J. Patrick's a call, Bubbles. I just saw Pat and his wife at the Pigtown Festival this weekend, so I know they are around.
Barney
· 2 years ago
So I just came across this blog when looking up info on Pigtown Neighborhood Cleanups. I have worked in Pigtown with Habitat for Humanity for the last two years and it is cool to see that there are lots of people invested outside of non profits. Keep picking up trash and keeping an eye out on your block! It makes a huge difference!
I've been hearing for some time that this is going to be the "next" Canton. Housing prices are going up pretty steadily from what I understand, so that's a good sign.
Good luck with your house search!
AH: I have to admit that I have been surprised by how close it is to everything. I actually ran into some former colleagues of mine from College Park, and one of them lives in Ridgely's Delight with his wife. I was mentioning to him where I was looking, and he mentioned how things are a-changing. And, geez, you have been around this city. I read your tale of the CB the other day, and that kind of had me going "Hmmm." At the same time, this is definitely a neighborhood in transition.
OSP: Alright. I will suck it up and eat some bacon to make it taste better. ;-)
PLEASE move to Pigtown. It's a great neighborhood, and you won't regret it. I've lived here for six years, and we're raising our son here -- he was born the week before we moved here. We have good neighbors, good friends, and with the exception of a few odd incidents, we've been crime free (knock on Ikea wood-veneered MDF).
I look forward to meeting you as a neighbor, customer, and friend.
Carol - My friends and I are excited that we'll have a coffee shop to visit!
All - As Jason was/is, I was a little hesitant to buy in Washington Village and even experienced a little buyer's remorse this week; however, your positive outlook gives me hope that I will not regret my purchase. Thanks!
I have three words for you: Patrick's of Pratt.
Mike B: I discovered Patrick's in doing some research. I will take your word. I say I organize a little neighborhood welcome wagon at Patrick's after I get settled in. Who's in?
6 shots, eh? You must be a laid-back kind of guy. ;-)
This is where I would normally roll my eyes so hard they almost fall out of their sockets, but the effect, I'm afraid just isn't the same unless you see it in person.
Crime is no worse here than in Federal Hill. At least where I'm sitting, anyway.
My wife and I considered buying that house in March. Very nice. We opted for one on Mangold St. Congrats. See you at Evelyn's.
Jason - do you feel like you made the right decision?
Questions: I sent an email response under separate cover. I believe I made the right choice, and time will most certainly tell. The neighborhood has its issues, just as any transitional neighborhood has.
FYI - One of my neighbors is setting up a Pigtown Happy Hour soon...I'll keep you posted.
Bubbles: Drop me a line on that Happy Hour. It needs to happen.